Roger Pimble - Charity School

Charity-school.

Roger Pimble, Gent. in the year 1645, gave the Lion Inn (on the site of which are now two leasehold houses, lately let at 141. 10s. per annum), for the maintenance of a free school. About the same time the parish, with a sum of money raised by voluntary contribution, purchased a house called the Catherine-wheel, which was converted into a school-house.

In 1698 Mrs. Catherine Dickins gave 501. to be laid out to the best advantage for the maintenance of a school. With this money, and another legacy of 401. left by Mrs. Mary Carnaby to the poor, was purchased the Goat alehouse, now let at 201.. per annum, the whole of which is, by a resolution of vestry, appropriated to the school. The present school-house was erected about the year 1707, by subscription, at the expence of 3181. (fn. 298) Dr. Millington, anno 1724, bequeathed to the school a third part of the rent of 24 computed acres of land at Acton, now producing about 121. per annum. The house adjoining to the school was purchased by the trustees; and is let at 20 l. per annum. They have the lease also of another house let at 141., but their interest in it expires within three years. About the time that the present school-house was built (viz. in 1708), Queen Anne granted an annuity of 50 l. to this charity, and Prince George of Denmark one of 301. When King George I. came to the throne, he confirmed both grants. This donation of 801. per annum has been continued ever since from the crown. The school fund has been augmented during the present century, by benefactions in money, to the amount of 23001. South Sea Stock (fn. 299) . With these endowments, aided by collections at four annual charity sermons preached at Kensington-church and Brompton-chapel, 22 boys and 11 girls are taught, clothed, and maintained in the school-house. Every boy when he leaves the school receives an apprentice-fee of 51. out of Lady Campden's benefaction. The girls go out to service, and if they continue 12 months in their place, are rewarded with a premium of 20s. (fn. 299)

Kensington - Roger Pimble

The national school was originally founded as a parochial free school, in 1645, by Roger Pimble, who endowed it with tenements in the parish, the rents of which, augmented by subsequent benefactions, produce an income of more than £250 per annum; the premises, situated in High-street, are handsomely built of brick.

Lord and Lady Campden in 1635 bequeathed £200, with which, including a benefaction of £45, supposed to have been given by Oliver Cromwell, and called Cromwell's gift, an estate was purchased producing nearly £200 per annum, one moiety of which was to be given to the poor, and the other appropriated to the apprenticing of children. Six almshouses were built in 1652, by William Methwold, who endowed them with sixteen acres of land, for the support of aged women; and there are numerous other gifts for the relief of the poor.

The union of Kensington consists of five parishes or places, containing a population of 114,952. Here are several chalybeate springs, which were formerly in repute, though now little noticed. Charles Boyle, Earl of Orrery, born in 1674; and Charles Pratt, Earl Camden, lord high chancellor; were natives of Kensington. —See Brompton.

The English Civil War (1641-1651)

The English Civil War (1641–1651) was a series of armed conflicts and political machinations between Parliamentarians and Royalists. The first (1642–46) and second (1648–49) civil wars pitted the supporters of King Charles I against the supporters of the Long Parliament, while the third war (1649–51) saw fighting between supporters of King Charles II and supporters of the Rump Parliament. The Civil War ended with the Parliamentary victory at the Battle of Worcester on 3 September 1651.

The Civil War led to the trial and execution of Charles I, the exile of his son, Charles II, and replacement of English monarchy with first, the Commonwealth of England (1649–53), and then with a Protectorate (1653–59), under Oliver Cromwell's personal rule. The monopoly of the Church of England on Christian worship in England ended with the victors consolidating the established Protestant Ascendancy in Ireland.

Constitutionally, the wars established the precedent that an English monarch cannot govern without Parliament's consent, although this concept was legally established only with the Glorious Revolution later in the century.

State Papers - Charles I - Roger PIMBLE

1621
VIII. 28. Letter signed "Jo Lincoln, elect Custos Sigilli" (fn. 45) to the Lord Mayor and Court of Aldermen, soliciting the Freedom for Roger Pimble.

May 10, 1625
Chiswick.43. Francis Lord Russell to Sec. Conway. Pimble, a post-master at Charing Cross, has refused to convey a packet containing a letter from his Majesty, with the writer's directions to the Dep. Lieuts. of Devon to act thereon, by pressing 400 men, and to have them ready on the 25th inst.

Dec. 5, 1627
Charing Cross.19. Roger Pimble, post at Charing Cross, [to the same ?]. Explains the occasion of the delay in delivery of packets for the Lord Chamberlain and Lord Holland, received by the writer on the 1st inst.

July 27, 1637
Westminster. 66. Warrant to pay to Secs. Coke and Windebank, Masters and Comptrollers-General of the Posts, 500l., to be paid to Anthony Buckbury for arrears, to be paid to his deputy for execution of the postmaster's place of the Court, until 24th June last, and also the amounts due to the several postmasters following, up to the 27th September next, on the allowances after mentioned; viz., to Thomas Swinsed, of Ware, 3s. per diem; Thomas Hagger, of Royston, 4s. 4d.; Ralph Shert, of Babraham, 2s.; John Cotterill, of Newmarket, 4s. 4d.; John Riggshis and William Kilborne, late of Huntingdon, 2s.; James Cropper, of Witham, 2s.; Richard Leeming, of Grantham, 2s.; Thomas Atkinson, of Newark, 2s. 4d.; Edward Wright, of Scrooby, 2s.; Edmund Hayford, of Doncaster, 2s.; Edmund Bawne, of Ferrybridge, 2s. 6d.; Thomas Tayler, of Tadcaster, 1s. 8d.; John Howsman, of York, 2s.; William Thompson, of Wetherbury [Wetherby ?], 2s.; Andrew Wilkinson, of Boroughbridge, 3s.; John Scarlet, of North Allerton, 2s. 4d.; John Glover, of Darlington, 2s. 4d.; William Sherrington, of Durham; 2s. 4d.; George Swan, of Newcastle, 3s.; John Pye, of Morpeth, 3s.; Alexander Armorer, of Alnwick, 3s.; Thomas Armorer, of Belford, 3s.; Thomas Carre, of Berwick, 2s. 4d.; James Ware, of Dartford, 2s. 6d.; Thomas Lord, of Gravesend, 6d.; Richard Jennings, of Sittingbourne, 2s.; Thomas Parks, of London, 2s.; Roger Pimble, of Charing Cross, 2s.; John Briscoe, of Barnet, 2s.; Robert Story, of St. Albans, 2s.; John Gerrard, of Brickhill, 2s.; Andrew Clarke, of Daventry, 2s.; John Fletcher, of Coventry, 2s. 8d.; Ralph Castlon, of Birmingham, 2s.; Robert Francis, of Chester, 2s. 4d.; James Wilkinson, of Staines, 2s.; Gilbert Davies, of Hartford Bridge, 1s. 8d.; Anthony Spittle, of Basingstoke, 1s. 8d.; Richard Miles, late of Salisbury, 1s. 8d.; Roger Bedbury, now of Salisbury, 1s. 8d.; Nicholas Compton, of Shaftesbury, 1s. 8d.; John Smith, of Sherborne, 1s. 8d.; Robert Searle, of Honiton, 1s. 8d.; Thomas Newman, of Exeter. 2s.; Samuel Smith, of Brentwood, 2s. 6d.; William Neale, of Chelmsford, 2s. 6d.; Robert Bunny, of Witham, 2s.; Henry Barron, of Looe, 2s. 6d.; Joshua Blaxton, of Perryn, 2s.; Gilbert Davies, of Hartford Bridge, 2s. 6d.; William Brooks, of Portsmouth, 2s. 6d.; Rowland Roberts, late of Langfenny, and Richard Roberts, in present service there, 2s.; and William Folkingham, of Stamford, 2s. [Parchment. 29 lines.]

Bandsman Joseph PIMBLE born 1887

Joseph served with The Gloucestershire Regiment. Regimental number 7738.

This photo was taken around 1907. If you recognise him please get in touch.

Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) testing

A contact in Australia tells me she is descended through the mother line to Mary Jenison who married Robert Pymble. It would be interesting if there are others who have taken the test to prove a similar connection, or who may have thought to have the test.

A person's matrilineal or mothers-line ancestry can be traced using the DNA in his or her mitochondria, the mtDNA, as follows: This mtDNA is passed down by the mother unchanged, to all children. If a perfect match is found to another person's mtDNA test results one may find a common ancestor in the other relative's (matrilineal) "information table", similar to the patrilineal or Y-DNA testing.

However, because mtDNA mutations are very rare, a nearly perfect match is not as helpful as it is for the above patrilineal case -- in the matrilineal case it takes a perfect match to be very helpful.

Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) testing

Map of human migration out of Africa, according to Mitochondrial DNA. The numbers represent thousands of years before present time. The blue line represents the area covered in ice or tundra during the last great ice age. The North Pole is at the center. Africa, harboring the start of the migration, is at the top left and South America is at the far right.

MOST WANTED - George Pimble

George was born around 1796 - 1800. This from the 1841 UK Census where he declared his age as 40. On the 1841 Census ages for adults were rounded down to the nearest 5 years. This means he could be anywhere between 40 and 44 and 11 months.

At the time of the 1841 Census George was living in Staffordshire and he appears to have declared that he, his wife Ann (nee Brown) and all of his children to that point, were also born in Staffordshire. We know from later census entries and birth records that wasn't the case.

Unfortunately George died in 1849 and it wasn't until 1851 Census that birthplace was declared so we have clarification from him about his birthplace.

George married Ann Brown in 1829 Swindon Village, Cheltenham.

For many years we have been trying to find where George was born, in order to connect him with his parents and other branches of the PIMBLE family tree.

We do know from DNA testing that George shares a distant common ancestor with Robert PYMBLE who emigrated to Australia in 1821. Robert was born in Hentland in Herefordshire.

If anyone has an alternative ideas about George's birthplace or an old photo of George I would be delighted to hear from you.

Gerald

Earliest PIMBLE / PYMBLE events?

Lance Pymble in Australia (Lance is a direct descendant of Robert Pymble who emigrated to NSW in the early 1800's) asked me:

What's the earliest Pimble stuff we have?

Sarah Pimble's grave 1726 ...
Thomas Pymble's Will 1531 ...
Earliest photo - Robert Pymble before 1861
Earlies signature ...
Anything earlier you know of?

I wonder if any US based PIMBLE have any early photographs? or is aware of any other early events?

Taynton Church in Gloucestershire - found inside

Note: The characters that look like an 'f'' are mostly an 's'.

My grateful thanks go to Lee Hines of the Linton History Society for pointing this out to me.

Stephen Pimble "died" 1799 - Moby Dick

This is a frame from the 1956 Moby Dick film that shows the placque to Stephen PIMBLE.

Pimble / Pymble DNA Project

The details contained about the DNA project have been amended to remove some of the technical language that it contained and to clarify the project goals and results.

Please take a look, we hope you find it more understandable and better focussed.

The link to the right of this takes you to the updated web page.

Marriages 1837 to 1983

The Guild Archive has been updated to include marriages from 1837 (when Civil Registration started) to 1983. This is for England and Wales, I don't believe there are any marriages in Scotland or Northern Ireland.

The Archive is searchable go to

searchable Archive

Pimble / Pymble Facebook group

If you are interested in the names PIMBLE and/or PYMBLE, or have the name, then why not sign up and be in contact with others who share the interest or the name?

You'd be very welcome.

Gerald

Stephen Pimble who 'died' in 1799 - real or invented?

Since my 21 March blog which mentioned the Stephen Pimble whose memorial stone appears on the walls of the church featured in the Moby Dick film I have heard from Derek Pimble.

In his email Derek says:

On your excellent web-site, there was mention of the film 'Moby Dick'. I visited the Whalers' Chapel at New Bedford, Connecticut some years ago. As the film showed, there is a pulpit in the shape of the prow of a ship, and memorial tablets round the wall, but no sign of Stephen.

What we see in the film is a film set at Elstree (Studios in London). How they came to use the Pimble name, I was never able to find out in spite of exhaustive enquiries both here and elsewhere in the USA. I have two photos of the interior of the Chapel, but they don't really tell us anything. I could send you copies if you think it worthwhile.

Many thanks to Derek for this additional information, it was Derek who first told me about the film. I bought the video but who has a video player these days? must get it transferred to a DVD.

Derek kindly sent me the photos and one of a gravestone that resolves an issue I had with a stray marriage of Hannah Pimble to John Williams.

THANKS again Derek!

1911 Wales census is now loaded to the Archive

I have loaded the 1911 Wales census to the searchable Archive at

searchable Archive

This means that most entries for England and Wales between 1841 and 1911 are available to be searched.

Please feel free to contact me with any queries, amendments etc.

Gerald

1911 Wales census is now available

Released today is the Wales 1911 census.

It'll take me a little while to get them sorted and loaded to my Archive at the Guild (of One-Name Studies) website.

When I have completed the updates I will announce it here.

Gerald

On a lighter note - a bilious headache!

RESIDENT MAGISTRATE'S COURT. This Day.
(Before J. C. Crawford, Esq., R.M.) A BILIOUS HEADACHE. Mary Pimble was charged with having been drunk and incapable. She said that the young man who arrested her had made a great mistake. She had a bad bilious headache, and all the beer she had drank during the day would not intoxicate a kitten. The constable said he found defendant lying helplessly drunk on the footpath. Defendant said it was the bilious headache which overcame her. In fact, as his Worship must know, those bilious headaches made people very silly. Sergeant Monaghan said that this was the third bilious headache that defendant had had since June last, and she was fined 20s, or in default 48 hours' imprisonment.

Taken from the Evening Post, Wellington, New Zealand May 1876.

This was not the first or last time that Mary would appear before the Magistrates!

Stephen Pimble and mother Sarah were buried

in Linton, Herefordshire in October 1726. A friend sent me an email about a book she was reading which had a photograph a PIMBLE tombstone. Got in my car and found it very easily however it has unfortunately deteriorated since being photographed for the book. THANKS Pat.

Father and husband Stephen remarried and his second wife Hannah is also buried in Linton but not Stephen as far as I can currently tell.

Which brings me round nicely to MOBY DICK the film. The one with Gregory Peck filmed in 1956, not the remake. (update: apparently Gregory Peck appears in both the 1956 film and the remake starring Patrick Stewart - same actor but different parts - I now have both versions on DVD)

This has a scene in a church with a plaque to Stephen PIMBLE who died whaling in the the South Pacific sea in May 1799.

A real church or a Hollywood invention - I would really like to know.

Essex Farm Cemetery - Francis James PYMBLE

As a postcript to one of my earlier blogs, nephew Martin visiting Essex Farms this week kindly placed a poppy cross at the grave of Francis James and took this photo, Francis James was a second cousin - there are no direct PYMBLE descendants. THANKS MARTIN.

It was at Essex Farm that 'In Flanders Fields' by Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918) Canadian Army was written

Pymble, Australia roadway sign

PIMBLE twins

Twins are not a common feature of PIMBLE or PYMBLE families however on 18 February 1893 Edgar and Margaret Hilda were born to John PIMBLE and Zillah (nee EVANS).

On 26 May 1897 Frederick Charles and George Henry were born to Alfred PIMBLE and Ellen (nee JORDAN) and then on 17 September 1898 Ellen gave birth to another set of twins Austin and Clarence.

Though John and Alfred share the PIMBLE name there is no direct family connection between them that I can find.

The only commonality between them that I aware of, other than their surname, is that all the childrens births were registered in the Pontypridd Registration District.

Thoughts anyone?

Haley-Baff Family Reunion, Thanks to DNA

I read an fascinating article in the last few days by Dick Eastman of Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter, about a Scottish woman just starting out to find her family history. She persuaded her father to take a Y Chromosome DNA test and this resulted in her meeting a US cousin in London, all within a few weeks.

The article is available at:

Haley-Baff Family Reunion, Thanks to DNA

Which branch on the Pimble family tree do attach to Robert, Richard, George or John or ..............

Census maps

If you want to see better quality copies of the England & Wales census maps go here:

Census MAPS

1841 and 1851 are there now with others to follow.............

1851 England & Wales census map

Some small changes between 1841 and 1851:

1841 England & Wales census - Map

This is where UK based Pimble / Pymble people were resident in 1841 by Registration District (RD). Those who appear under the Chepstow RD lived in Lydney, Gloucestershire

England & Wales 1841 to 1911 available

Website problems are now fixed. Please give it a try and let me know how you get on.

Logo using software available at www.wordle.net

England & Wales 1841 to 1901 censuses loaded with some 1911

I have been working hard at extracting and loading E & W census records and they are mostly there for review.

There is a short-term problem on the Guild website but I expect that to be fixed soon.

Give it a try soon and let me know of any E&O you spot. Also contact me with any questions - I would be delighted to hear from you.

Archive

1911 UK census entries added and some for 1901

Though the 1911 E & W (England and Wales) census has been released, not all counties are yet available, where they are I have added these entries to the Archive.

You can search by name, year etc.

I'm working through the 1901 E & W entries now but have added the first batch.

Try now:

Archive

Guild Archives - 1861 Census

In addition to the UK BMD's (Births, Marriages and Death) indexes that are available on my Guild Archive I have recently added the 1861 UK Census details which means you can enquire on an individual and see who was also present and where they were.

I plan to add other censuses entries progressively and if format permits will add US Censuses when I have finished the UK ones (England and Wales, no presence in Scotland as far as I am aware) - only 1841, 1851, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911 to go!

The Archive is at:

Archive

Brinsop, Herefordshire, Taxes and HenryVIII

From Wills and records of Taxes paid during the Reign of Henry VIII (1491 - 1547) we know that PYMBLE (sometimes spelt PYMBYLL) were resident in Brinsop and nearby Credenhill in the 15th Century.

Unfortuantely Brinsop Parish Records and Bishops Transcripts prior to 1660 do not appear to have survived and as a result we are unable to relate all of the named individuals one to another.

Waterloo Medal 1815

Waterloo medal roll 1815 database © Naval and Military Press Ltd 2006.

Regiment: 7th (or QUEENS OWN) HUSSARS
Last name: Pimble
First name(s): Chas
Rank: Private

In the absence of other details I am not at the moment able to say where Charles originated. Do any PIMBLE family members have any family stories about such an individual?

Gerald

1911 UK Census is released

I have downloaded the brief outline details of the PIMBLE / PYMBLE families who appear on the 1911 UK census to add to the others I have for 1841 through to 1901. I'm only selectively downloading the images at the moment in view of the high cost. However I do know the make up of each household so if you have any questions, feel free to contact me.

One of the few images I have downloaded is the PYMBLE family at 18 Perseverance Road, Hereford. This includes Frances James subject of my last posting to the blog.